Journal Entry #621
November 29th, 2011
During a discussion I was having where I posted the true Christian dilemma as 2 Christians with similar ideas about their faith were saying how everyone else has it wrong I posted my video as an example of how we just need to step up and stop treating each other as enemies. The person removed it as they felt the links that you tube offered after the video was finshed were not appropriate for the people on his list as he is a youth pastor. Now I cannot help what you tube posts after and really to try and stop others from making decisions as to what to watch is not cool in my books. This will just peak their curiosity even more.
Now I understand he wants to maintain a squeaky clean image but it is what it is and the song is a great message. The discussion that followed quickly from my perspective generated into one of arrogance and righteousness on their part but you be the judge.
Even when I offer something that can be viewed by all as a great message it appears people will find a reason to promote their exact agenda. I get it that he has a right to take it away because of his association but really the song is just a good message…
The song…
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umKohFW-LrI
“We Are Here” By The Freeman (Official) www.thefreeman.net
Now some of these comments are priceless and I will highlight them in red. One comnment can sum up an entire position one takes………
The discussion;
Gary David Currie………. Again it is all subjective but you do what you feel is right. Anything is easy to justify.. I am not in a p[position to tell others how they should follow their faith and besides you guys take care of doing that yourself. Carry on……….. It seems my video disappeared… Interesting.
Belief Pictures………… Why did it disappear?
Gary David Currie ……………I have no idea…
Belief Pictures………. Hmmm…
Christian………
I did remove it (and have removed many links on my personal page, from Christian and non-Christian friends alike).
As an minister and youth leader in the church, I need to be aware of where links go on my page — since I am responsible for leaving them there or removing them.
After your new song plays, additional suggested videos come up that contain subject matter / language that I would not want anyone saying they got to from my Facebook page.
Belief Pictures…………. Thanks makes sense now…
Gary David Currie ………..Censorship cool your right to do so… I will no longer post my music for you to hear so you are not offended and kept in the bubble that you offer…Good luck…
Belief Pictures………. What???
Belief Pictures……. M__ is only speaking of appropriateness.
Gary David Currie ……..
I have absolutely no control over what you tube suggests and to be honest this should not affect the message in the song I have written. I really thought that Christians and all people would be able to relate as the message is universal and one of compassion and kindness.. Also Do you not think people are smart enough to make their own choices and really if they want something inappropriate you will not stop them. You cannot control the flow of life but good luck trying…
……..First classic comment……….
Belief Pictures ………….Gary people are not smart enough! That’s the whole point… without God and direction from the Holy Spirit they are looking for their own ways… ways that lead them to nowhere. His focus is the correct one.
Belief Pictures………. It is the association he doesn’t want…
Gary David Currie……… I get it Belief Pictures . I just view it a different way.. well thank for the chat.. As it appears I am not one to be associated with according to Belief Pictures.
Gary David Currie……….. By the way Belief Pictures I have more faith in humanity than you offer to be smart enough..I don’t look down upon the human race in such a way.
Christian………..
I didn’t write that I was offended, merely that I need to be aware of where links go that are posted on my page. I don’t think your new song (which I have watched) is inappropriate.
Your song FMF doesn’t “offend” me, but I’m sorry to say that I would not think it appropriate to play to a young child that might miss your intended message and simply repeat the chorus. If a Christian friend put a link on my page with doctrine / views that I found misleading, I would remove it too (and I have).
I am concerned about the young people I am responsible for.
And, it has nothing to do with smart. Temptation visits all of us.
Can I control “everything”? Of course not, nor do I need to. Being responsible and thinking about others sometimes calls for making the “best” decision in a given situation.
………..next classic comment………..
Belief Pictures…………. Gary you have faith in humanity? That doesn’t say much…
Gary David Currie……… Belief Pictures that says everything because humanity is all we got..
Christian………If “fallen” humanity was everything, we’d all be doomed and nothing we would do would have any significance or lasting value (in fact, it wouldn’t have any actual value at all) — might as well try to “rent out” the planet to someone else! Gary, I truly find what you preach to be a depressing anti-gospel of the hopelessness of “fallen
humanity”.
Thankfully, we can have more than mere “fallen humanity”.
One of the problems is that Christians will call our “fallen” humanity “natural” or “normal” — it is not. Our current, sin-filled world is NOT the humanity that God established. Now we have to be “born again” to get back to the “Good” humanity God originally created.
Gary David Currie………… I preach reality if anything and I am sorry you have to have faith in imaginary things and I will continue to have hope in humans..
…….next classic comment………..
Belief Pictures………..Gary you do not know what you are talking about. M____ is in truth and worships the living God. His entire life is a reflection of that. You have your poles reversed and Satan wants to steal hope away from you so you don’t get saved…
…. next classic comment………..
Belief Pictures…………. It is not imaginary to believe in your creator.
Christian ………. Gary David Currie, am I the only one that finds it odd that atheists always have to resort to the “everyone else is delusional, we are the only sane people” cry when unable to make “progress”? Basically, the atheist actually believes himself to superior to everyone that is not. Now that is a dangerous mindset! The atheist claims to want to “work with all people”, but actually proudly believes themselves smarter than anyone that is not an atheist — since those other people can only be delusional or uneducated.
Whereas the true Christian believer has realized that he/she is JUST AS BAD and foolish as everyone else and comes to the realization that humanity is not suffering from a MENTAL problem, but a sin problem.
………next classic comment…………..
Christian…………I truly am coming to the conclusion that atheism generally has nothing to do with a knowledge problem, it is MORAL problem. Atheists try to make it look like they are rejecting God with their mind, but are in fact separated from Him by their unrepentant hearts.
…………..and more…………….
Belief Pictures…………… Gary once again you are incorrect. Humanity is not all we have. We have JESUS! We can have a relationship with Him today if we choose to… big part we much CHOOSE to…
Belief Pictures………… Atheists don’t believe in God… I wonder if God believes in atheists… hmm…
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Belief Pictures…… On a serious side I think the whole atheist movement is a bunch of bunk. It’s a cop out. It’s like M____ said a moral problem… it’s so they can live their own immoral lifestyle and do things this way… this isn’t Burger King. You cannot have it your way!
Gary David Currie………. Good luck boys this discussion is old news.. you will do what you do and I will do what I do and where humanity ends up will be based on the path we choose… I have no need to defend who I and neither do you as we will each find those who have common ground. I have said my piece and wish you both luck on your journey..
Christian……..Gary, you’re correct — this discussion is a bit too familiar! (We might have engaged in it once or twice before!) – lol !!!
We are indeed on an interesting journey called life. One other common ground (I assume) we all have is that we believe we only get “one shot” at it to get it right and that we are doing what we believe is best.
My final comment: If I’m on the right track (and of course I believe & hope I am), I truly hope you’ll get on the same train so we can arrive at the same station someday! 
….and the final classic comment…………
Belief Pictures………….. We don’t need luck… we need Jesus!
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