Journal Entry # 159
August 13th, 2010
In many conversations I have with believers will usually get to a point where I ask for evidence to support their claims or I will say they have no credible evidence. I hear from them that they don’t need evidence that they only need to have faith. What they are forgetting is that it is evidence that they use to get to their conclusions in the first place.
God wants you to drink this is evidence.
Is the bible not evidence? Are any testimonials they hear not evidence? Evidence surrounds them. It is evidence that brings them to their convictions, to their faith. What they are lacking is credible evidence. They rely on unsubstantiated evidence and then say that they do not need evidence. They also say that the evidence I present does not matter because they have faith. This is a ridiculous merry go round of logical fallacies. The difference and what they refuse to acknowledge is that I accept only credible evidence. That is evidence that can be proven to be true.
This was probably one of the most ridiculous things said to me in my conversations with the faithful
“ Because I’m asking you to give up your own personal God. EVIDENCE.”
How can evidence be a god?
god (gd) n.
a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
2. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
3. An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
5. A very handsome man.
6. A powerful ruler or despot.
As you can see by the definition evidence does not fall into any of these definitions. So what is evidence?
ev·i·dence (v-dns) n.
1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment: The broken window was evidence that a burglary had taken place. Scientists weigh the evidence for and against a hypothesis.
2. Something indicative; an outward sign: evidence of grief on a mourner’s face.
3. Law The documentary or oral statements and the material objects admissible as testimony in a court of law.
tr.v. ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing, ev·i·denc·es
1. To indicate clearly; exemplify or prove.
2. To support by testimony; attest.
Evidence is used to support a claim or to disprove a claim it cannot be a god. I am astonished that religious people constantly refuse the concept of evidence and yet they use it daily in their lives. It is not evidence that they have a problem with it is anything that contradicts their belief system or proves it wrong that is when they pull the faith card. True faith would be to have absolutely no evidence and then believe something to be true. If I said I have faith in deckle dingers without having any information on them or it that would be true faith.
Also if I state I am an Atheist that means I do not believe in gods any gods so how could I have the god of evidence?
Evidence is not the problem it is only any evidence that goes against ones beliefs that is the problem because it is very hard to keep the faith when the evidence goes against it. How do you solve this problem if you are the faithful? Easy you ignore it until it goes away.
“To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy”. David Brooks… The necessity of Atheism
Seek the truth always
Gary David Currie