Journal Entry #351
February 15th, 2011
That is the thing about faith when no evidence is required or the evidence is selective anything can be viewed as true.
It is amazing the response people have offered to my claim.
What is amazing is that the argument roles are reversed and yet one can still not see the flaw in their beliefs but only in mine. They are now the ones claiming evidence and using the same reasoning I use in my arguments with them.
Responses including my answers.
Why do the believers doubt I am Jesus? All I ask is that they have faith. They are always telling me that they walk by faith so I offer them this opportunity to prove that faith is enough. Evidence is not important.
Why do they call me a deceiver? How do they know? Ask me any question I will answer just have faith in me. I am here to offer a gift if one just believes. Many doubted me 2,000 years ago as they have today.I offer a gift if one just believes. Many doubted me 2000 years ago as they do now.
Gary David Currie…………. they have longed for the day of my return and when I tell them that day has come they now doubt me. I have watched them consistently profess the day Jesus will return and what a glorious day it will be and when I am here they doubt me, call me a deceiver. I do believe their faith is not as they say it is. They tell me it is all about the belief and yet they will now want evidence to verify their claim.
Rolf Hansen………….. Hi Gary you might be. They say he healed the sick, he made the blind see. If you can do that, you got my vote. Love you Rolf.
Rolf Hansen…….. Hi Jesus I have that faith, if you say you are Jesus I will believe you. Love Rolf.
Gary David Currie……. Sure I can do all that if one believes I can. I keep saying that the Jesus you read about in the bible is not true, these are stories made up long after I was murdered on the cross for offering a religion of peace. I am not a god here. To be… of this earth I must be mortal. One must willingly chose to follow me because they believe in what I preach not because they think I can do miracles.
I preach a message of love and acceptance. Peace and kindness, this is how I live my life and my example is my proof.
I have helped those without hope they were sick and now are healed.
I have helped those who were blinded by hatred and revenge to see past this to find love and forgiveness.
Is this not healing the sick and helping the blind to see. I have been told by people that I am more like Jesus then most Christians. Why did they say this? Did they see?
Is being Jesus all about being the son of god or is it about being Jesus. Was Jesus not just a man? I am just a man who preaches peace and love. I long for a better world. I offer truth to all. Read what I write.
Is this not what Jesus is all about? If I do this how can I not be Jesus?
So many think it is about the magic but the magic is exemplifying love, forgiveness and acceptance of one another.
Gary David Currie………. Rolf You understand. You are the first to get it. I salute you once again.. We all need to be Jesus and I will be the first if that is what it will take to live in a better world.
Rolf Hansen………. Gary this is why I love you like a son to me. What you just wrote was magic to read, you are more a Christian then most. You are an example of how one must live. I salute you too love Rolf
Gary David Currie……….. Rolf you made my day thank you for your kind words.
Bappa……… @Gary: I simply adore your insight and convictions, BRAVO.
Let those who have ears hear your inner song and see the inner spirit.
I know even though they have eyes yet they can’t see and having ears cant hear and that because they do not …want to.
Religion has made man compulsive blind and deaf.
Person………. OMG! If Gary is Jesus and Rolf loves him like a son … that makes Rolf …. OMG! 8-o
Gary David Currie……. yes that would be the logical conclusion if one believed in the concept. And no one could ever dispute it ultimately. Maybe it is true.
Christian……….hi Gary. just read you comment about you being Jesus. glad you have a sense of humour. After thinking about this in order for your claim to be true or anyone else making the same claim for that matter, does it square with what is said about …Jesus? The next appearance of Jesus on earth will be when he sets up his kingdom in Jerusalem, since you are in Canada and not setting up your kingdom in Jerusalem your claim can be discounted as false. Your claim about being Jesus would mean you created everything ex nihilo(out of nothing), but you continue to preach evolution, so your claim about being Jesus again would be false. Finally no lie can come from the truth, and since Jesus is truth, your claim about being Jesus is thereby false. Meaning you can not be Jesus. You talk about faith but here is what Christian faith is… it is confidence or assurance, it is not blind, it is not luck or chance. to illustrate you drive down a two lane highway, what separates you from the on-coming traffic is a thin white line. While I am driving my thoughts are not on if the driver on the other side has his license, or if he is skilled, or if he knows the rules of the road. No I drive with assurance or confidence they know what they are doing. i don’t worry, wonder, or get excited. the Christian life is filled with assurance, with confidence that the God of the bible know what he is doing because we are created by him. I don’t have to worry or wonder what my future holds. I live with confidence knowing my very life is in his hands. That is what faith is.
Gary David Currie……… D____ good to hear from you.. You don’t know I am not Jesus. I told others I will tell you my claim is not false the bible you believe in is wrong as it is written by man. All you think you know is not really what you know.
You have tried to… use evidence and logic here and sorry it just will not work as all I ask is for you to have faith in me and believe. You have not proven my claim is wrong you have only proven you think my claim is wrong.
The god of the bible is not really god. No one believed me the first time I was here as well.
Just have faith and all will be revealed. Stop thinking so much and just believe. I guarantee if you truly believe and have enough faith it will be true.
Ask me any question and I will answer it.
Christian……….Hey Gary, how can you claim to be the Jesus of the bible or faithful, and I can not use the bible to verify your claim? That makes no sense. Now if you claim to be just a guy named Jesus then no problem, you can claim to be anyone you want. But if in fact you are saying you are Jesus of the bible then the only way your claim can be valid is to square against the very book that is written about him. Even if the book was written by men as you claim you still have to match up to its claims otherwise you are a false prophet…
Gary David Currie…… No I am sorry as I told you the bible is written incorrectly. The character of Jesus is correct but all the information surrounding it is incorrect. Really who should know better than me? I was actually there. I am not the Jesus of that bible because he did not exist the way it was written.
Man twisted the true story years later to suit their own purposes.
How can I be a false prophet if the original prophecies are not correct?
You can use the bible if you want to but it will be incorrect as I said the bible is written incorrectly. I am sure it makes sense now.
I was at the time as I have said in human form and there was no magic as you well know humans cannot perform magic. I was here to spread a message of love and peace which was not accepted at the time. In fact very few would even listen. Later as people realized that what I was preaching was good they started to adopt the system but as time went on things have become twisted to suit man’s own purposes.
Just have faith that what I am telling you is true after all I was there and what better evidence can you ask for.
Christian………Again non-sensical. Jesus never told anyone to blindly follow him. You assume too much. You assume people don’t have a brain to think and reason.
Gary David Currie……. How do you know that is what he said. If I am Jesus and I tell you that is not what I said who would be more correct me or the bible?
You cannot have it both ways D___ . You cannot logic and reason something out that ultimately requires faith. I am telling you that the basics for your reasoning are wrong as the bible is a twisted account of what really happened. So if your basis of your reason is incorrect then all else will be. Just have faith.
This part they got right; Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
I assume nothing I know.. I hope people have a brain otherwise my father did not do a very god job creating you now did he.
You have to let go of what you think is true and just believe.
Christian………. Gary your error is that you do not know scripture. Jesus said he came to fulfill scripture and that he came to testify to the truth of scripture. Since you reject the very idea of scripture you would be a contradiction to yourself. Thereby anything you say would be false because you can claim to be the very thing you reject… See you make no sense
Gary David Currie……. Not at all; Don’t believe doesn’t matter to me many doubted before. I have told you that scripture is manmade and incorrect. There is no need to know scripture as it is wrong.
How can I be a contradiction to myself if scripture is wrong. I did not say it was all incorrect as I stated that the character of Jesus is valid but not as written. You doubt me who was there and believe a book written 400 years later. Your choice.
I do not claim to be the very thing I reject. I only claim to be what I am. You claim that Jesus is something he is not.
Your logic is not sound as your premise is incorrect.
Let go of your false beliefs and just have faith in me.
Christian………..Gary again you error in even believing scripture is both true and not true. How could anyone even believe what is true is true? If I can’t believe Genesis 1:1 then the rest of the bible is suspect and can’t be trusted. The whole bible is about Jesus so if one part is in error then it it safe to say the whole thing is in error, because we have no way of judging what is true and not true. If the whole of scripture is untrue then Jesus is a liar because he said he came to testify to the truth of scripture. If Jesus is a liar then there is no reason to pursue after a liar. If he’s loony then there is no reason to pursue after a person off his rocker or meds. Again Gary your error is that you don’t know scripture the very thing Jesus over and over testified to. You claim Jesus is valid, but how do you know, by what authority do you use. God already said his word is Flawless, refined seven times over, and you can trust it. In essence you are making the claim the God is a liar, since you profess the scripture to be both true and not true. You have already violated the law of non-contradiction. Something cannot be both true and not true at the same time. Be careful in your writings that you are calling God a liar since HE has already told us these are his words. You can disagree with me, no problem, but don’t call God a liar.
Gary David Currie…….. Are you telling what I can do and can’t do? I called the bible false I told you this already. How do you know I am wrong? If I say the bible is wrong how can you prove me wrong? I think you have faith in the wrong thing. What will happen if I call your version of god a liar? What power do you have to enforce your statement “Don’t call god a liar”, Your calling me a liar if you say what I am saying is not true.
I ask you to have faith in me and what I say you have not proven I have made any errors. I have told you that the bible you think is true is not as man has twisted it; Don’t believe me I don’t care.
Ultimately because you do not accept credible means of determining evidence that man uses it boils down to faith. What if you have faith in the wrong thing? I am asking you for your sake to have faith in me.
You have no way of verifying anything you have said so what I offer is just as valid, Believe or don’t believe it matters not to me. I am Jesus and you can either take it on faith which you profess or not.
I think you are calling god a liar because you follow the bible that I told you is false I think you should be careful after all I know god better than you.
At the end of the day I could be Jesus. Even when I stated the reason behind what I am doing the Christian still continued to engage.
Christian……….. You are wrong for all the reasons I’ve given you. Jesus said he came to testify to the truth of scriptures. Jesus didn’t say believe me for the sake of believing me. Your logic is all off, you can’t argue a position from a false premise, it …only means you will have a wrong answer. To say the bible is true and not true is a contradiction which make everything you have written a contradiction. You offer nothing credible in your statement I am Jesus believe in me. What proof do you have you are Jesus? Jesus quoted scripture over and over. Do you believe in Jonah and the fish? You would have too since Jesus referred to it, or is this a false thing he said? See Gary your thinking is skewed by the fact you think you have the truth. You have nothing. The burden of proof in your claim lies with you not me. What makes a claim true is can the person deliver on that claim. You have not demonstrated you delivered on the claim.
Gary David Currie……….. Just believe. Just believe. There is no premise or argument I am asking you to have faith, just have faith.