Posts Tagged ‘jesus’
Journal Entry #670
June 12th, 2012
The other day as I was coming home from work I noticed this lovely leaflet in my door. I was so surprised and excited. Did they leave it for me personally? Did they want to talk with me and missed me? Well of course not as I saw a bunch of them blowing aimlessly down the street.
Well let’s have a look at what I was in for;
Cornerstone Baptist Church
Ya another church and denomination because god just can’t seem to gather his flock into one religion, one doctrine and one ideology. You would think an all powerful god could get this at the very least right.
Our Mission – To lead people into a life changing relationship with god through Jesus Christ.
Well it is good to have a direction but have these people really read their bible? Jesus and god are the same so you are creating a middleman that doesn’t exist here.
Life changing; well life changes all the time so no big deal on this one.
A relationship: Interesting what exactly is the relationship. Slave / owner, Battered wife and husband. Father that never relinquishes control or a pretend friend.
Really this mission is a bust because if god wants this he can take care of it himself and really doesn’t need the Cornerstone Baptist Church to do this.
Our vision – Reclaiming god’ people one family at a time…
Did god lose his claim on humanity at some point? One family at a time I guess those alone don’t count. This really is righteousness at a most disgusting level while being hidden with the air of love.. How about we first prove god even exists before we jump to all the pretend nonsense..
Our Purpose – we exist to glorify god..
Ok even if I bought into any of the other BS this is where I am laughing my ass off. Is god so insecure that he needs beings to exist just to glorify him? Come on how stupid is this. So based on the statement god created us as we exist just o worship him in all we do. How twisted is this?
Worship, worship and more worship and then more worship boy can’t wait for heaven.
The question is simple; If god exists why does he need humans to convert other humans?
Christians are relentless in their agenda… If they really knew their bible I would be put to death instead of being given a pamphlet;
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles
Seek the truth always
Gary David Currie
Journal Entry #648
May 5th, 2012
We are all looking for that magic formula to life, to answer those big questions and to navigate our way through our daily activities. We all want happiness and to be successful. Each one of us will determine this in a different way but I do believe I have found the secret well I call it that because people love secrets but really it is just something as a species I see us continually failing at. Understanding this one concept I do believe will change so much for us.
I see this in my daily discussions, in personal relationships and all over the world. What it leads to I do believe is the basis for so many of our conflicts on every scale imaginable.
Are you ready?
I will personalize this but the idea is that if everyone adopted this it would open the doors for us all.
I am willing to admit and accept that I can be wrong on anything.
You would not believe how many people that will not accept this. It doesn’t matter their belief system in fact most belief systems demand that you cannot accept this which is the flaw and the control mechanism. They have built in punishments for doing so and are well crafted to take away the option.
If I follow my motto of seeking the truth always then I must do this even though I could be wrong on this as well. Over the last 2 years the acceptance of this has proven to me to be the one thing we need to do because when we do we actually break down all the walls and open ourselves up to the truths in life that we all seek but many think the have found.
This does not mean we do not accept certain things as true based on the available information but we realize theta things can change. Change is a constant that has proven itself beyond a reasonable doubt at this time so to not accept this is to ignore reality as we know it.
The objection to the admittance of being wrong is vast and sometimes hostile. When it comes to a personal belief that someone accepts as an absolute they will adamantly object. This has lead to so much misery in the world and so much pain when the simple acceptance of this will prevent much of the harm we inflict upon ourselves. We accept that we live in a world of uncertainty and I do believe that is a good thing.
We all seek the truth and yet so few are willing to even define it, here is my definition and I certainly could be wrong.
Truth- all that is, all that is real, all that is part of reality and all that is factual.
How we determine what is true based on a shared accepted point of reference we call reality. – Verification through the method of the scientific process, reason and logic.
I believe that we cannot verify anything 100% as doubt can always be cast however small so we work on a system of probabilities, best guess and beyond reasonable doubt to
say that we know something is true.
We should never believe anything in the unknown to be true until it is verified as known. We can speculate, imagine and engage in fantasy thinking but must always come back to our base of reality. The unknown should not be used as an argument to dispute the known or another unknown as this is just pure speculation.
For every question there can only be one answer that is true.
Once something is known it is no longer up for debate there is only acceptance or ignorance.
There is only truth based on my definition.
The truth will remain the truth no matter what we think our try and do to it, we are powerless over it and yet it is what gives us our power.
Something is either true or it is not even if we do not know if it is true or not.
This frees our minds to offer the most fantastic answer ever “ I DON’T KNOW” which is the answer on the vast majority of questions we ask and I am ok with this. I will qualify it by adding this “I don’t know but let’s see if we can find out”.
Now everything we do takes on a new meaning as our minds become open like when we were children when all things seemed full of wonder and awe. We no longer need to fight over who is right and who is wrong because we all know we could all be wrong so we are willing to take the best guess.
This is what science offer us and the method is sound;
Here is the Scientific method so we are clear;
1. We often first make an observation of something that has happened.
2. We then consider what caused this thing to happen by posing an educated uess or hypothesis.
3. we can then make predictions about what we should expect to see if our hypothesis is correct.
4. If necessary, experimentation and data collection may be conducted.
5. Further observation is necessary, which will lead to 3 possible outcomes..
a If we observe that our data positively supports our prediction, then we have hypothesis confirmation..(at least for now)
b. If we observe that our data do not support our prediction, then we have hypothesis falsification and we may be forced to either give up or modify our hypothesis.
c. If there are simply not enough data to decide either way, then we suspend judgement.
6. Finally we need to consider whether there are any other competing hypothesis that provide an equally plausible or likely explanation for our observation. If there are we need to ask ourselves which seems more reasonable. If there are no others, then we may decide to tentatively to accept the hypothesis based on the currently available information.
From Christopher DiCarlo…Phd Bioethics & Philosophy..
Like I have said the opposition I get to this is amazing but when one accepts this then we have great discussions. The one I like the best is when I am told I always think I am right usually just after I have said I can be wrong on anything…
Here is an amazing example from a page of devout Christians called Born Again in India. The answer to my question is simple but it challenges the very concept of the belief and to deny the belief is considered a sin so to accept the obvious answer is blasphemy. What a great trap devised by someone long ago.
Gary David Currie
If I told you I was god and I was here to test you most would fail the test…How would you know if I was god or not?
Jawahar Peter…… HolySpirit in us says you are not yet bornagain. so u can be god but not God. disobedient angels lucipher etc have become gods and make u god. But JESUS is God incarnate to save us from the clutches of god of this world and make us BornAgain to give us Gods image back.
Jawahar Peter……… u should know the difference between only “God” of abraham jacob issac moses and the gods of heathen like baal baalaji .
Gary David Currie….. Jawahar Peter you have failed the test once again. your arrogance has blinded you..to those I have sent to you. Your path has become poisoned by your
condemnation of others that is my job not yours. you are my servant but you are playing god and you must stop. Go back and follow the path of Christ, be humble and give to those in need without telling them what they need as I will do that. You shall reap what you sow I have sent a humble man who serves me well and you have done nothing but condemn him he exhibits what I want and follows my path and you have strayed far from the path. Accpet him where he is at not where you are. Humble yourself before your god and pray for forgiveness in your arrogance this I command of you. Break my command and pay the price Jawhar….
Jawahar Peter …My God is JESUS. is JESUS your God? many times u rejected CHRIST and so i refuse to buy your commands which are from lucipher. I am washed in the blood of Christ. are u washed in the blood of Christ? if u say yes then i can consider your suggestion but if you reject Jesus as your Lord u have lost the opportunity to correct me. i cant listen to people whose god is Satan 2 cor 4:4
Gary David Currie …..YOU DARE QUESTION ME……………..YOU HAVE FAILED AND WILL BE PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY FOR YOUR ARROGANCE AND DISBELIEF. THIS IS MY FINAL WORD UNTIL YOU REPENT OF YOUR ARROGANCE.
Derek William Helberg….. Jawahar, come on now and get off of your soap box. Can you not see that this jackal is trying to bait you, the same jackal that seems to have no friends but hangs out on this page begging for attention. Dust your feet off of this pretender and move on, it is not your duty to argue, the Holy Spirit will have his day.
Jawahar Peter…. satan will have so many final words. he is deceiver and thief. But Jesus love is eternal He gives chance till last breadth. dont loose/forfeit Jesus grace by
your arrogance. i have lot of problems in my person i am the worst sinner forgiven by Jesus. its not my goodness or any thing. despite my shortcomings Jesus loves me. i am also ready to accept you provided you dont deny grace of Lord Jesus. i am trying to love u a fraction of what Jesus loved me. but i cant condone the atheism spirit or obstinate person in you.
So the obvious answer is….. I wouldn’t know….. but this person would have lost their mind if they had to admit that. It would shake the very foundation of all they held as true and brought into question everything, I see this as a good thing they did not.
“The moment we are willing to look into nothing is the moment we will be willing to see everything.”
I hope one day all can see the power in this statement I offer. I am not the first to see this and I hope I am not the last.. We don’t know what we don’t know. This is probably the most important post I have written but will mostly be ignored. I have planted a seed that will germinate and bear fruit one day.
Gary David Currie
Seek the truth always
Gary David Currie
Who Hijacked Reality / #646 One of the those great moments in life when another person takes what you offered and makes it better, A great rant by Keanu.Wednesday, April 25th, 2012
Journal Entry #646
April 25th, 2012
Today I read something on the internet that I very much disagreed with, posted it with my objections and I was going to write a post about it. I offered some of my thoughts on it and got this amazing response. To me this is more important right now but I will write about it later.
This really is the essence of everything for me and to see a young man like Keanu take it and run with it was a special moment for me.
I dedicate this blog post to his thoughts on the matter and I salute him..
Gary David Currie
Ok I am going to say something that most will disagree with and that is fine but I will say it anyways. I am not judging and this is my personal view on this.
My entire life I have watched people give up in relationships from marriages, families to friendships when things did not turn out the way someone planned they cut and run. I think this is bullshit. If we so easily give up then what is the point of starting these relationships. It all takes work everyday and shit happens beyond our control
but the idea is to not give up during these times because that is when it really counts.
like I said this is just my view.. I would go to hell and back for those I love and I would not hesitate. I would fight for them to the end with all I have. For me my life would be empty without this commitment. I cannot control what others do only what I will do and that is what I will do….
I will do this because if I do not I can never ask this of anyone else when I need it and because I see this as the most important part of who I am. This is my integrity, my personal responsibility and what I hold myself accountable to.
Rant on Appreciation.
by Keanu Allridge onWednesday, April 25, 2012 at 7:57pm ·
Part of the inspiration for this rant came from my friend Gary, who posted a status about his thoughts on commitment and appreciation of those closest to him. He’s a man who, like everyone else, has faced ups and downs in his life. But what sets him apart from a great many people is the way he is fueled by his love for his family — specifically, his two sons. This kind of dedication is beautiful to me, and, I think, sorely lacking in American society today (Gary is Canadian).
What this leads me to first is how I view my ideal relationship, whether it be romantic, platonic, familial, so forth. One of my most basic guiding principles when it comes to relationships is that you should only take as much as you’re willing to give; e.g. if someone close to you often performs little gestures for you to show you they care, you should reciprocate. For me it all comes down appreciation, which, in turn, is connected to loyalty. These two things form the basis of what I believe to be love. I know that I love someone when I would go out of my way to help them if they needed me, whether or not it was inconvenient. Such is love’s nature, I think. No matter what, though, appreciation is right at the core of it.
And this leads me to appreciation generally. I make it a point to try to spend just a little time each day being aware of how incredibly fortunate I am to live in the country I do, in the time that I do, and to have the friends and family I do. I may not like everything about this country or the people I share it with, but it’s a hell of a lot better than living in Wartornistan. Just the same, I may not agree with my friends and family on every little thing, but I love them regardless, because they would do what they could to help me if I needed it, just as I would for them.
But what I spent the majority of my time thinking about was my love for all of the now deceased family members whom I shall never meet. The ones I am descended from. I love them for all of the hardship they endured over the course of their lives so that I could be alive today. Unfortunately, I don’t know much about my family history from either side. But what I do know is that I am descended from black slaves and Jews.
I am descended from people who were stolen from their homelands by Bible-toting savages and sold as cattle. People who were forced to work in fields from the early hours of the dawn till the late hours of the night. People who were treated worse than dogs; whose backs were ripped and ravaged by the sharp cracking of whips. This country was built on the backs of these people, just as it was built on the graves of the victims of genocide. The blood, sweat, and tears of these people gave rise to the country I live in today, and I love them for it.
I am descended from people who lived their whole lives in a country that had never exactly been friendly to those of their ethnicity and religion (as many countries aren’t all over the world). These people were among those who were eventually labeled as rats and driven into the gutter. These people were forced into cramped, disease-ridden hellholes. They were shot in the streets, sent to death camps, and systematically gassed. They were exterminated like vermin. But my family escaped that, fleeing to a strange country with an entirely different culture. As a result of their actions, I am alive. And I love them for it.
Sometimes the people responsible for our existence mess up. Sometimes they screw up so royally that it can be nigh on impossible to forgive them. Some of us were and are constantly supported and loved, while some of us know only abuse from them. But no matter what, their choices have played an incredibly huge role in who we are today. Being dragged through the dirt sucks major balls, but it doesn’t have to break you. It can only rob you of your dignity if you let it.
And so we have to move forward, accepting the past for what it is and looking forward to the future. We have to let appreciation come full circle, from the most distant relatives to the closest friends, and finally back to ourselves. After all, if we don’t love ourselves, how are we to love anyone else?
Again Keanu I salute you..
Seek the truth always
Gary David Currie
Journal Entry #643
April 18th, 2012
My personal belief on god is this and I have said it many different times in many different ways. “ I don’t know”.
Truly this should be the answer for all and to pretend that you do know and have special access to the all knowing and then act on a set of rules from this all knowing entity is simply insane but many do engage in this insanity.
I will focus on a discussion I had with a person who started a group called “Born Again” from India. It seems that India and Africa is where Christianity is growing unchecked and completely unbalanced and this is where it becomes dangerous.
I will let the discussion speak for itself as it will be my best evidence for those I believe are thinking clearly to see what I am presenting. The righteous mind is a dangerous mind.
I will post the link to their page where they have amassed big numbers and continue to grow.
Born Again page on Face Book.
Now the person I am talking with is the founder of this group and actually invited me to join as they said so they could save me from my atheism and show all what devil atheism truly is. I like to play in the lions den and not preach to the choir so I accepted.
My original post and I even took out the swearing for them;
Gary David Currie
I don’t know why but I get so mad and frustrated at how we treat each other but I do. There is no need for any of the terrible things we do to each other. I get so disgusted at humanity. We sit back and do nothing while so many suffer. What a pathetic species we are because we know better and do nothing. We continually hurt those we love and
ignore those we care nothing for.
We squabble over politics, religion and money, we engage in pathetic drama and self pity when all we have to do is just treat each other good and all this will not matter.
Jawahar Peter ……….when people deny their creator they become curse to other fellow humans. but they never repent of their atheism.
Gary David Currie……….. Nice attitude. Sad for a god to be this way. By the way sounds like I care about humanity more than you do as you only care about your god. I am a human being first so quit with all this atheist labeling. There are no sides here. I actually thought you cared about your fellow man.
Jawahar Peter ….by acting kind hearted atheist, you create so many other atheists like you who can’t team up JESUS lovers. so many Islamic terrorists don’t allow Christian aid workers to reach fellow humans. u American atheists by your foolish ideology deny JESUS love on cross and resurrection to encourage Russian atheist leaders
to support Muslim terrorists.
Jawahar Peter … instead of criticising genuine love of JESUS and genuine Born again believers you can 1. believe in Lord Jesus and be Born Again 2. help us to criticise false infiltrated Satan agents like Benny Hinn Todd Bently who like parasites eat Christian aid money. then i can agree u are real human with kind heart ,until that time u are a hypocrite justifying your atheism which indirectly creating suffering for starvation deaths in Africa and elsewhere.
Gary David Currie……Jawahar Peter you know nothing about me. Ask Bappa Mukherjee who I am. I am not even American…You condemn me so easily..
Jawahar Peter …you are not yet Born Again, that’s for sure. John2:25 JESUS did not need anyone to testify about man, for Jesus knew what was in man. it doesn’t matter u are American or not. you are human atheist denying Gods love on the cross thus dead in sin and are deceived by Satan. I pity u more than those starving in skin and bones. Many Born Agains were persecuted with hunger and perished in flesh but they are rich in Spirit. But u deny spirit and I pity u. but my prayer is u must be Born Again and be
our brother and co worker of Lord Jesus Holy Spirit to eradicate/minimise human suffering. if u don’t join Gods plans get delayed.
Gary David Currie….. See wrong again I did that years ago. Too many assumptions my friend..You think you are so righteous in you preaching and condemning others if you are what it means to be a Christian no thanks…
Jawahar Peter …… Gary I could be wrong, its possible i am self righteous. but why don’t you become better than me by accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour and then help so many starving people? Why you wanted to remain as a branded atheist and still wanted to appear good/righteous to others by posting about starvation deaths and thus appear as” LAST prostitutes and tax collectors and atheists are better than FIRST Pharisees and scribes “
Derek William Helberg …..Jawahar, have you not let the Spirit of our Lord guide you? Paul clearly writes in 1 Corintians 5: 11-13 for us not to judge those outside of
christianity. Matthew 10:14 and Mark 6: 11 tells us to dust off our shoes and walk away from those who do not welcome you, or listen to your words.
Gary David Currie ….. Jawahar Peter you branded me an atheist as if it is some sort of disease. You cannot change me as I cannot change you so accept me where I am and see the good in me as I try to with you. Remember you asked me into this group I did not ask to join. I am a human being first and foremost and when it comes to Jesus or god my answer is simple ” I don’t know”. If you think you know then good for you but stop acting like the devil you think I am and telling me how right you are and how wrong I am. To be honest I am more like Jesus then you have ever shown you are.. Just stop all this judging nonsense.
Jawahar Peter…… you yourself told that you were an atheist. But Jesus paid the price on the cross or atheists also. I was also a foolish atheist for some time in my life. But I
confessed my sin and accepted Jesus as my Lord.
Jawahar Peter ….. its true Gary I invited you, so that me an ex-atheist can help a friend to come out of atheism. if u don’t like me or this group u are welcome to unjoin the group.
Gary David Currie …. Yes I am an atheist but only because I have no good reason to believe in god but that is my choice.. Like I said I concentrate on the good in someone not what you disagree with. Jawahar Peter you called me the devil and labeled me evil. What right do you have to do this. I fight for the rights of all every day. I look for the good in all and I champion the truth so how does this make me the devil.
Who are you to judge me? Leave this to your god and he and I will take care of our business… Like I said you know very little about me.
Gary David Currie…… If you don’t like me in this group you are welcome to delete me. Who do you think you are telling me that you are right and I am wrong? Let god do this not you…You job is not his job..
Gary David Currie…. By the way you missed the entire message of my post here in the beginning…So what does this say about you. Is this not common ground for us to work from?
Jawahar Peter…….. JESUS alone can be our common ground. We must be Born again. let the dead bury their starving dead but we must raise the spiritual dead atheists back to life with resurrection power
Jawahar Peter ….my privilege being Born Again is I am Gods co-worker and I am His child.
Jawahar Peter…. me missing your message is of not much importance compared to you missing JESUS.
and this says it all
Jawahar Peter …those who sit back and don’t worry about the suffering of Lord Jesus on the cross are of more cruel in heart than those who do lip service for African starving deaths.
Gary David Currie …. Actually I am professing the message of Jesus and you don’t even see it which is the sad part. The only thing we disagree on is the supernatural stuff. You are so wrapped up in your beliefs you cannot see beyond them in any way..
Jawahar Peter….. u believe a pseudo-Jesus ,not Born of Virgin, not suffered on cross and hence not resurrected. being an atheist for now you have all the beliefs of new age, Hindu, Islam, Buddhist assumptions. but to be our friend You must consider the Jesus who suffered on cross for your , mine and all humanity sin and rose again from
death. without that foundation your claim to further Jesus message is invalid.
Gary David Currie… sorry that you friendship requires I bow to your ways. I give my friendship for other reasons.. Really sad what you profess my friend and not Christ like at all..
Jawahar Peter ….apart from Christ all reasons are meaningless and temporary. we are eternal beings ,should talk eternal things. JESUS said we must be Born Again. why don’t u be more Christ like than me by being Born Again?
Gary David Currie…. Again you assume so much. I did this long ago when I was young. I have been baptized and according to the faith once done I am set for life. Also I know far more about your faith than you do I just chose to met others where they are at like Jesus would. You really are so wrapped up in what you believe you cannot see anything anyone else says. That is sad to me. This is what is wrong with Christianity today everything you are professing Jawahar Peter.. Very sad