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Who Hijacked Reality / #271 There are days when I just have to shake my head at what The Faithful say..

Tuesday, November 30th, 2010

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Journal Entry # 271

November 30th, 2010

Sometimes I can’t believe some of the stupid things people say. I am a realist and a sceptic but before I say anything I try to either makes sense of it or find credible evidence to back it up. During my conversations with the faithful and sometimes just anybody I get to a point where I just say what the fuck is going through this persons head.

It is very hard to talk with stupid at times. I guess I should really say ignorance. People want to believe something so badly that they will stop at any information that verifies in their mind what they believe.

I do get the same repetitive dribble from the faithful. It seems they were all schooled in the same program on how to witness and give testimonials. The Ray Comfort school of how to talk to an Atheist.

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Kirk Cameron And Bananas

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Using Common Sense to Debunk Evolution – CBN.com

If you understand Evolution at least the basics you will see how ridiculous these videos are.  

Below just verifies what I am talking about. A few things said jump out at you.

Christian………… Yes Gary read the Shroud of Turin and you will not only see Jesus but you will see the scientific evidence of his actual existence. If you aren’t willing to even do a small amount of research to discover for yourself what we are telling you then you are cheating yourself of the beauty and comfort of a relationship with Our Lord and saviour. Many people have seen him. Read the Bible. Read Lee Strouble’ s books. He was an atheist as you are before he decided to do his homework and discover the truth for himself. Check out who Lee Strouble is. A very credible journalist and editor of the Chicago Tribune. And yes Jesus has spoken to me. If you read your Bible you will read many accounts of God revealing himself. I am sorry for anyone who takes an adversarial position but never takes the time to check out the voluminous data that is available for someone so that they can make an informed decision. Have you read about the Bible codes? Get books about that. Leading scholars from Harvard, Stanford and other leading and respected scholars and atheists agree that there are messages encoded in the old testament that have only been revealed because of the advent of computer technology. Albert Einstein an atheist at one time said that the more he studied the universe the more convinced he became that there is a God. The scientist who discovered DNA also became convinced that there has to be a supreme being to have come up with such a perfect identification system for living creatures. (I am of course paraphrasing). You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink. Let me ask you this, has anyone seen Shakespeare, Henry VIII, Socrates, any of the Caesars’, Pontius Pilate, etc. Get my point. Jesus was seen by many and what he had to say was so profound and life changing that people have followed his teachings for over 2,000 years. We know there were witnesses to his resurrection and they wrote about it. We know that Jesus’ own brother didn’t believe Jesus was the son of God until he saw him resurrected and then he became an Apostle of Christianity and was crucified for his teaching of Jesus ‘s teachings. There’s plenty of evidence but Jesus also requires FAITH. Did you know that all Biblical prophecy has been fulfilled. Did you know Christ’s crucifixion was predicted in the old testament before the world had ever heard of crucifixion. Gary my dear brother, don’t cheat yourself of external life. Don’t cheat yourself of the joy and peace and comfort of a relationship with Christ. Your answers are at your fingertips reach out and grab them. You will never regret you did. One last thing. Did you know they have disproven the theory of evolution? God bless you Gary on your search for the truth. 

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Gary David Currie …….First of all the shroud of Turin is not proof of anything but that there is a thing called the Shroud of Turin.

Secondly Einstein was never anything but an atheist. Lee Stroble I have seen his work and as a journalist he stops investigating where it supports his believe.

Look I have done plenty of research and that is why to this day I see no credible evidence.

It seems you and many stop at the investigation that confirms what you want to hear.

Truth is not a popularity contest.

Please show me where they have disproved evolution I am all ears.

Peace to you on your lack of searching and stopping with only what you like.

You see I have acquired knowledge about the items you mentioned but I have also continued as I question everything and nothing you have presented stands up.

Please show me this disproof evolution because to this day over 99% of scientist agree with it. I will listen to them over Lee Strobel.

There is no external life it is wishful thinking and magic does not exist.

Gary David Currie ………..I STILL CAN’T BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID THAT THEY HAVE DISPROVEN THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION. WOW.

Really 150 years of research by 1,000′s of scientists who have spent countless hours on this well acknowledged field and all of a sudden it is disproved.

 Ok… Everything screams of repeating what little information this person has been told but the big one is saying that Evolution has been disproven. Of course I get the final plea to open my heart to Jesus. Yeah… There was so much more that they had said previous to this and this was their big attempt at offering me credible evidence.

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A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty – it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)

 I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

 I believe in Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein)

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Seek the truth always

Gary David Currie

Who Hijacked Reality / #164 The BIBLE, The mother of all manmade concepts.

Wednesday, August 18th, 2010

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Journal Entry # 164

August 18th, 2010

OK, during my many debates, conversations, arguments and talks with the faithful I keep running into to this constant annoying snag called the bible or any other holy book depending on whom I am talking with. For some reason they constantly keep quoting it. I know why but I thought this would sound better. It is the only evidence they have when I ask for evidence. The problem is this they assume that it is true and infallible. This is simply not true and a huge problem.

If your entire foundation for a discussion is based on a book that you believe is the word of your god but you have no way of verifying it except that you believe then where  does this leave us? Unless god himself wrote every word in the book it is written by man and therefore cannot be the word of your god. What do I have to say to get this idea through people’s heads?  If you say Jesus said or god said and then quote a bible verse you are lying. You have no way of verifying that god or Jesus said anything. It is an assumption. Prove me wrong I dare you. I double dare you.

All you are telling me is what someone wrote down somewhere that they think Jesus or god said. You don’t know if it is true so stop saying it is true when you don’t know. Be honest.  How can we have a discussion if you will not acknowledge this?

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I don’t know the entire history of the bible or any holy book and frankly I don’t care. It really does not matter if we are talking about truth. If you tell me that it is the word of your god you are implying supernatural authority while making giant, huge assumptions.  This is another reason why religion is dangerous. You will now believe this to be the word of your god and therefore above question. Please take a step back into reality. So nobody gets hurt.

It is just a book . It has been around a long time but so have other books. It is full of contradictions and wild stretches of the imagination. Take it for what it really is a manmade book with stories and parables. Anything that you quote from it is your interpretation of what you are reading not your gods. It can be no other way.

The book taken literally is full of dangerous ideals just look at how the Qruan is being used to justify terrible acts against humanity. Stop and think about this. Believe if you want but remember it is a belief not fact  that comes from that book.

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               Read the warning label.

Deaths in the Bible. God – 2,270,365 not including the victims of Noah’s flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers were given. Satan – 10

As far as I can tell from studying the scriptures, all you do in heaven is pretty much just sit around all day and praise the Lord. I don’t know about you, but I think that after the first, oh, I don’t know, 50,000,000 years of that I’d start to get a little bored.

Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived

Seek the truth always

Gary David Currie

Who Hijacked Reality / #163 Prayer…. another man made concept.

Tuesday, August 17th, 2010

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Journal Entry # 163

August 17th, 2010

The faithful like to attribute the ritual of prayer to their god as an act that brings them closer or defines their beliefs. It is also the way that they apparently acquire their desires from their god. But does it work? Does their god answer their prayers? They will of course say it does but it is all subjective. When prayers are seemingly answered it is considered to be a miracle, is it really a miracle?

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prayer 1 (prâr) n.

1. a. A reverent petition made to God, a god, or another object of worship.

    b. The act of making a reverent petition to God, a god, or another object of worship.

2. An act of communion with God, a god, or another object of worship, such as in devotion, confession, praise, or thanksgiving: One evening a week, the family would join together in prayer.

3. A specially worded form used to address God, a god, or another object of worship.

4. prayers A religious observance in which praying predominates: morning prayers.

5. a. A fervent request: Her prayer for rain was granted at last.

    b. The thing requested: His safe arrival was their only prayer.

6. The slightest chance or hope: In a storm the mountain climbers won’t have a prayer.

7. Law

a. The request of a complainant, as stated in a complaint or in equity, that the court grant the aid or relief solicited.

b. The section of the complaint or bill that contains this

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Prayer can also be considered a form of meditation, chants that invoke a state of being that is desired. This I have no dispute with because it does not require a supernatural being to give answers. So does prayer wok in regards to a god. I say no if the end result is that their god has answered the prayer request. The answer can be no, yes or maybe. I can get the same answers from my dog but at least I can see him. Prayer in this state is dangerous because it deflects responsibility from the individual.  I am amazed that when people prayer they always want something. It is always a selfish request even if they are asking for someone else.

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The Effect Of Prayer

It is irrelevant to quote studies as they can go either way depending on who did them or the particulars. I have not found any verified studies that prove prayer works in regards to an answer from god. First you would of course have to prove that god does exist and that also has not happened.

Generally prayer is a manmade concept that fits into our ideal of what is happening with that inner voice we all hear. Really all we are doing is talking to ourselves. When you start to hear different voices answer back you should be worried that something is wrong not thinking it is your god.

Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer

Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts have no place in organized religion.

Seek the truth always

Gary David Currie

Who Hijacked Reality / #162 Beliefs can be very scary

Monday, August 16th, 2010

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Journal Entry # 162

August 16th, 2010

Every day I am more and more perplexed and afraid of the values and ideals humans chose to follow. There was a point that I thought the average person was level headed and had a good set of ethics. Maybe they do but when you get to some of the core values of people it gets scary.

They can say I want peace, I believe in the good of humanity and doing good deeds. I follow the golden rule and then boom all of a sudden they throw in “I am preparing for the end of days. Even if only 10% of the population has these twisted beliefs that is enough to affect the rest of the world and cause instability. We can see this with the core values of Islam which bring about chaos all over the world. What are the true intentions of people?

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As an example I spent less than 5 minutes on The Bible Face book page which I was banned from commenting yesterday on. I saved just a few random comments and will demonstrate what people really desire in their own words. Add in Islam and other crazy religions and views to the mix and you can see how humanity is way of course for peace. Look at how many people are on this site and countless others that promote similar ideals.

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Anyone that denies God the Father and Jesus Christ his only begotten Son is perverse… according to Scripture…John 3:16-18

The day of the Lord is near the day when destruction comes from the Almighty. How terrible that day will be. Joel 1:15

……. Put on the armour of Almighty God, so you can withstand Satan’s schemes. Our battle is not against flesh and blood; no, things are not as they seem. …Our fight is against the powers of darkness, with the forces of evil on high. But He gave us His armour so we can stand firm, on the Earth and in the sky. Gird your loins with truth, which will always bear out, the breastplate of righteousness wear. Shod your feet with preparation of the gospel of peace; take the shield of faith everywhere. Take the helmet of salvation to wear on your head, and the Spirit’s sword in your hand. And pray in the Spirit all of the time so against Satan’s plots you can stand

FAITH – Forsake All I Trust HIM

 Amen, u right! the good Lord is coming soon. R U Ready! for his com

‎”This charge, I commit unto thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare…” (1Timothy 1:

God love us soooooooooooo much thats why Satan is Jealous
and he is sooooooo mad that he wants many to join him but God already won the battle…God ur will be done…Amen

I love Jesus Christ with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength. He is EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

Regardless of what the Devil brings upon us, conquer evil with good

>>>Roman 12:18-21

 http://www.truemercy.com/truth.html   10 Laws of truth….. This was very scary to read as this site decided their own version of what they thought was true.

To actually believe in a literal devil in this modern age is absolutely insane, but of course if you believe in god you have to believe in some kind of monster.

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What can I say I am afraid for humanity and for myself and the people I care about. In the USA 40% of people believe that they will see the second coming of Jesus in their lifetime that is around  132million people. Add the Islamic ideals of concurring by the sword for their god and we have the makings of war, constant war.

As long as we continue on this course we have problems. We must get to a point of sanity where reason and truth, the real truth lead the way we conduct our daily lives. In the USA 16% of the people are non believers but only 1.6% are Atheists. There are few humans in this world who are dealing with reality. Many of our leaders are not in this category.

We must let go of our arrogance and fantasies and stop believing in lies.

Seek the truth always

Gary David Currie