Journal Entry #643
April 18th, 2012
My personal belief on god is this and I have said it many different times in many different ways. “ I don’t know”.
Truly this should be the answer for all and to pretend that you do know and have special access to the all knowing and then act on a set of rules from this all knowing entity is simply insane but many do engage in this insanity.
I will focus on a discussion I had with a person who started a group called “Born Again” from India. It seems that India and Africa is where Christianity is growing unchecked and completely unbalanced and this is where it becomes dangerous.
I will let the discussion speak for itself as it will be my best evidence for those I believe are thinking clearly to see what I am presenting. The righteous mind is a dangerous mind.
I will post the link to their page where they have amassed big numbers and continue to grow.
Born Again page on Face Book.
Now the person I am talking with is the founder of this group and actually invited me to join as they said so they could save me from my atheism and show all what devil atheism truly is. I like to play in the lions den and not preach to the choir so I accepted.
My original post and I even took out the swearing for them;
Gary David Currie
I don’t know why but I get so mad and frustrated at how we treat each other but I do. There is no need for any of the terrible things we do to each other. I get so disgusted at humanity. We sit back and do nothing while so many suffer. What a pathetic species we are because we know better and do nothing. We continually hurt those we love and
ignore those we care nothing for.
We squabble over politics, religion and money, we engage in pathetic drama and self pity when all we have to do is just treat each other good and all this will not matter.
Jawahar Peter ……….when people deny their creator they become curse to other fellow humans. but they never repent of their atheism.
Gary David Currie……….. Nice attitude. Sad for a god to be this way. By the way sounds like I care about humanity more than you do as you only care about your god. I am a human being first so quit with all this atheist labeling. There are no sides here. I actually thought you cared about your fellow man.
Jawahar Peter ….by acting kind hearted atheist, you create so many other atheists like you who can’t team up JESUS lovers. so many Islamic terrorists don’t allow Christian aid workers to reach fellow humans. u American atheists by your foolish ideology deny JESUS love on cross and resurrection to encourage Russian atheist leaders
to support Muslim terrorists.
Jawahar Peter … instead of criticising genuine love of JESUS and genuine Born again believers you can 1. believe in Lord Jesus and be Born Again 2. help us to criticise false infiltrated Satan agents like Benny Hinn Todd Bently who like parasites eat Christian aid money. then i can agree u are real human with kind heart ,until that time u are a hypocrite justifying your atheism which indirectly creating suffering for starvation deaths in Africa and elsewhere.
Gary David Currie……Jawahar Peter you know nothing about me. Ask Bappa Mukherjee who I am. I am not even American…You condemn me so easily..
Jawahar Peter …you are not yet Born Again, that’s for sure. John2:25 JESUS did not need anyone to testify about man, for Jesus knew what was in man. it doesn’t matter u are American or not. you are human atheist denying Gods love on the cross thus dead in sin and are deceived by Satan. I pity u more than those starving in skin and bones. Many Born Agains were persecuted with hunger and perished in flesh but they are rich in Spirit. But u deny spirit and I pity u. but my prayer is u must be Born Again and be
our brother and co worker of Lord Jesus Holy Spirit to eradicate/minimise human suffering. if u don’t join Gods plans get delayed.
Gary David Currie….. See wrong again I did that years ago. Too many assumptions my friend..You think you are so righteous in you preaching and condemning others if you are what it means to be a Christian no thanks…
Jawahar Peter …… Gary I could be wrong, its possible i am self righteous. but why don’t you become better than me by accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour and then help so many starving people? Why you wanted to remain as a branded atheist and still wanted to appear good/righteous to others by posting about starvation deaths and thus appear as” LAST prostitutes and tax collectors and atheists are better than FIRST Pharisees and scribes “
Derek William Helberg …..Jawahar, have you not let the Spirit of our Lord guide you? Paul clearly writes in 1 Corintians 5: 11-13 for us not to judge those outside of
christianity. Matthew 10:14 and Mark 6: 11 tells us to dust off our shoes and walk away from those who do not welcome you, or listen to your words.
Gary David Currie ….. Jawahar Peter you branded me an atheist as if it is some sort of disease. You cannot change me as I cannot change you so accept me where I am and see the good in me as I try to with you. Remember you asked me into this group I did not ask to join. I am a human being first and foremost and when it comes to Jesus or god my answer is simple ” I don’t know”. If you think you know then good for you but stop acting like the devil you think I am and telling me how right you are and how wrong I am. To be honest I am more like Jesus then you have ever shown you are.. Just stop all this judging nonsense.
Jawahar Peter…… you yourself told that you were an atheist. But Jesus paid the price on the cross or atheists also. I was also a foolish atheist for some time in my life. But I
confessed my sin and accepted Jesus as my Lord.
Jawahar Peter ….. its true Gary I invited you, so that me an ex-atheist can help a friend to come out of atheism. if u don’t like me or this group u are welcome to unjoin the group.
Gary David Currie …. Yes I am an atheist but only because I have no good reason to believe in god but that is my choice.. Like I said I concentrate on the good in someone not what you disagree with. Jawahar Peter you called me the devil and labeled me evil. What right do you have to do this. I fight for the rights of all every day. I look for the good in all and I champion the truth so how does this make me the devil.
Who are you to judge me? Leave this to your god and he and I will take care of our business… Like I said you know very little about me.
Gary David Currie…… If you don’t like me in this group you are welcome to delete me. Who do you think you are telling me that you are right and I am wrong? Let god do this not you…You job is not his job..
Gary David Currie…. By the way you missed the entire message of my post here in the beginning…So what does this say about you. Is this not common ground for us to work from?
Jawahar Peter…….. JESUS alone can be our common ground. We must be Born again. let the dead bury their starving dead but we must raise the spiritual dead atheists back to life with resurrection power
Jawahar Peter ….my privilege being Born Again is I am Gods co-worker and I am His child.
Jawahar Peter…. me missing your message is of not much importance compared to you missing JESUS.
and this says it all
Jawahar Peter …those who sit back and don’t worry about the suffering of Lord Jesus on the cross are of more cruel in heart than those who do lip service for African starving deaths.
Gary David Currie …. Actually I am professing the message of Jesus and you don’t even see it which is the sad part. The only thing we disagree on is the supernatural stuff. You are so wrapped up in your beliefs you cannot see beyond them in any way..
Jawahar Peter….. u believe a pseudo-Jesus ,not Born of Virgin, not suffered on cross and hence not resurrected. being an atheist for now you have all the beliefs of new age, Hindu, Islam, Buddhist assumptions. but to be our friend You must consider the Jesus who suffered on cross for your , mine and all humanity sin and rose again from
death. without that foundation your claim to further Jesus message is invalid.
Gary David Currie… sorry that you friendship requires I bow to your ways. I give my friendship for other reasons.. Really sad what you profess my friend and not Christ like at all..
Jawahar Peter ….apart from Christ all reasons are meaningless and temporary. we are eternal beings ,should talk eternal things. JESUS said we must be Born Again. why don’t u be more Christ like than me by being Born Again?
Gary David Currie…. Again you assume so much. I did this long ago when I was young. I have been baptized and according to the faith once done I am set for life. Also I know far more about your faith than you do I just chose to met others where they are at like Jesus would. You really are so wrapped up in what you believe you cannot see anything anyone else says. That is sad to me. This is what is wrong with Christianity today everything you are professing Jawahar Peter.. Very sad